Sunday, 20 January 2008

Reason That Mufon Is Re-investigating 2007 “Drone flap”?

Recent Announcement of Mufon & UFO Hunters Collaboration Explains A Lot

James Carrion (Mufon Int. Director) visited a popular UFO forum recently to try and gleam a little information on what Mufon already classed as a, “Hoax”.

I must admit to being a little puzzled by the recent attendance at a popular UFO Forum by the International Director of Mufon. While I believe it was an unprecedented move in the right direction to try and unite the fragmented online UFO community I feared at the time that his motivations were a little less than sincere.

It quickly deteriorated into a crass show of, “Oneupmanship” and James left empty handed. This was purely as the UFO-Hunters show had requested information for an upcoming Mufon/Drone episode, information had already been provided for the television show in a very poor PowerPoint presentation by Mufon which quoted certain CGI expert/s without their prior knowledge and with information gleamed from private emails between Mufon and said expert/s.

(Mufon presentation in PDF format available here)

It has since been announced that according to the Jan 2008 edition of Mufon Journal (p2), Mufon is in the process of trade-marking the name "UFO Hunters" and are in the process of producing a website and logo.

One purpose of the website will be to,

“Inform the public about MUFON's mission and goals".

Thanks to Robert Moore for the information relating to this new announcement (UK-UFO.org).

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8 Comments:

At 21 January 2008 13:20 , Blogger nesbittplac7 said...

Trade-marking the name? One would think that the History Channel would have already done that. I found this in a Yahoo Finance address but obviously it's in PRNewswire as well.

NEW YORK, Jan. 17 /PRNewswire/ -- Are we alone in the universe? The question has always haunted humankind. Incidents involving UFOs and extraterrestrial life have been reported throughout history. UFO HUNTERS(TM), a new series on The History Channel, follows a group of experts as they subject some of history's most intriguing UFO accounts, and the evidence surrounding them, to exhaustive scrutiny in an effort to uncover the actual facts.

PRNewswire would have picked it up from the History Channel, which would have included the TM.
.

 
At 22 January 2008 00:03 , Blogger M.N. said...

Hi Squeaky,

It’s been a while and to be honest I’m disappointed you couldn’t have queried or verified this any by any other means of contact as you have plenty for me, not to worry though.

Have you looked into it? I am but the messenger and I provided my source,

Consult the Mufon Jan 2008 journal (page2) and get back to me.

As a nudge in the right direction, here’s the applicant information for the UFOHUNTERS trademark which was filed on August 30, 2007 (Serial Number: 77268583 )

(APPLICANT) Mutual UFO Network, Inc.
CORPORATION COLORADO
PO Box 279 Bellvue
COLORADO 80512

(http://tinyurl.com/2f3z2b)

In the meantime, here’s the (pre-emptive – note the date) registrant information for:

www.ufohunters.org

Domain Name:UFOHUNTERS.ORG
Created On:18-Apr-2007 01:18:17 UTC
Last Updated On:17-Jun-2007 03:58:20 UTC
Expiration Date:18-Apr-2009 01:18:17 UTC

Registrant Name:James Carrion
Registrant Organization:MUFON, Inc.
Registrant Street1:P.O. Box 279

Registrant City:Bellvue
Registrant State/Province:Colorado
Registrant Postal Code:80512
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone:+1.9702211836
Registrant Phone Ext.:
Registrant FAX:+1.9702211209

I look forward to hearing from you…..

 
At 22 January 2008 00:46 , Blogger nesbittplac7 said...

Without talking directly to the History Channel, I have no resources to check. I checked the History Channel's TOS and that's as far as I went.

My little discovery this morning you can see by simply searching the words UFO Hunters inside the following site. http://www.prnewswire.com/

You'll find only the one item in search and it was submitted to PR News Wire directly from the History Channel and not an off-shoot or even A & E.

The following is blatantly stated at the top of the press release.

UFO HUNTERS(TM)On The History Channel(R)

I cannot imagine them sending out a press release with a trademark unless they truly had one.

 
At 23 January 2008 06:55 , Blogger manuel said...

Exactly what would the significance of this be..is there a conflict of interest or what..
mufon can set up a wing to deal with television, another for internet, another for field and name it whatever they want, the same way a corp can set up a film project and call it red dog films..just for that film..its all forr taxes..as mufon is a non profit. so they have to do that. I am trying to see where this is going. just curious..
thanx

 
At 23 January 2008 16:51 , Blogger nesbittplac7 said...

I emailed A&E and sent the following email. Let's see if we get a response.

I would like to inquire as to whether or not the History Channel's program name 'UFO Hunters' has a registered a trademark on the name.

There is an organization called MUFON, (Mutual UFO Network) who has registered a trademark on 'UFO Hunters' per the information below.

The reason for my question is because I noticed in a PR Newswire press release, which came directly from the History Channel, they stated (TM) after the title of the program, which would lead one to believe that there was a trademark on 'UFO Hunters'.

Everything is outlined in this blog address below, which is where the subject came up.

(The address I supplied A & E is the same blog address where our comments are)

Email continues....

UFO HUNTERS trademark was filed on August 30th, 2007 by MUFON(Serial Number: 77268583)

(Applicant)Mutual UFO Network, Inc.
Corporation Colorado
P.O. Box 279
Bellvue, Colorado 80512

Domain Name: UFOHUNTERS.ORG
Created On: 18-Apr-2007

Registrant Name: James Carrion
Registrant Organization: MUFON Inc.
Same address above.

I happen to have Mr. Carrion's email address, which is as follows if you plan to follow this up.
jcarrion@mntview.com

I will assume that you will be checking into it but at the same time, I would like to be notified as to the outcome.

(So now, it's a wait and see)

 
At 24 January 2008 00:18 , Blogger manuel said...

I guess you told me..for the rest of the audience just go to the Trademark office and check all existing Trademarks Like this and see whats what :) I dont see anything sneaky ..but please let me know Thanx



Word Mark UFO HUNTERS
Goods and Services IC 009. US 021 023 026 036 038. G & S: Pre-recorded audio and video tapes and discs featuring stories about the paranormal, aliens, and unusual phenomena. FIRST USE: 20050801. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 20050801
IC 041. US 100 101 107. G & S: Entertainment services, including an on-going television series featuring stories about the paranormal, aliens, and unusual phenomena. FIRST USE: 20050801. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 20050801

Standard Characters Claimed
Mark Drawing Code (4) STANDARD CHARACTER MARK
Serial Number 77318402
Filing Date October 31, 2007
Current Filing Basis 1A
Original Filing Basis 1A
Owner (APPLICANT) A&E Television Networks Hearst Communications, Inc. (DE corp.); Disney/ABC International Television, Inc. (DE corp.); and NBC-A&E Holding, Inc. (DE corp.) JOINT VENTURE NEW YORK 235 East 45th Street New York NEW YORK 10017
Attorney of Record Monica B. Richman
Type of Mark TRADEMARK. SERVICE MARK
Register PRINCIPAL
Live/Dead Indicator LIVE


Word Mark NY-SPI: UFO HUNTERS
Goods and Services IC 041. US 100 101 107. G & S: ENTERTAINMENT SERVICES IN THE NATURE OF AN ON-GOING REALITY-BASED TELEVISION PROGRAM; ENTERTAINMENT SERVICES, NAMELY, PROVIDING A WEBSITE FEATURING NEWS AND INFORMATION ABOUT A REALITY-BASED TELEVISION PROGRAM, RELATED FILM CLIPS, PHOTOGRAPHS, AND OTHER MULTIMEDIA MATERIALS; AND FAN CLUBS
Standard Characters Claimed
Mark Drawing Code (4) STANDARD CHARACTER MARK
Serial Number 77321894
Filing Date November 5, 2007
Current Filing Basis 1B
Original Filing Basis 1B
Owner (APPLICANT) Pilgrim Films and Television, Inc. CORPORATION CALIFORNIA 4730 Woodman Avenue, Suite 300 Sherman Oaks CALIFORNIA 91432
Attorney of Record Stephen J. Strauss
Prior Registrations 3137991;3156328;3161623;AND OTHERS
Type of Mark SERVICE MARK
Register PRINCIPAL
Live/Dead Indicator LIVE


Goods and Services IC 041. US 100 101 107. G & S: ENTERTAINMENT SERVICES IN THE NATURE OF AN ON-GOING REALITY-BASED TELEVISION PROGRAM; ENTERTAINMENT SERVICES, NAMELY, PROVIDING A WEBSITE FEATURING NEWS AND INFORMATION ABOUT A REALITY-BASED TELEVISION PROGRAM, RELATED FILM CLIPS, PHOTOGRAPHS, AND OTHER MULTIMEDIA MATERIALS; AND FAN CLUBS
Standard Characters Claimed
Mark Drawing Code (4) STANDARD CHARACTER MARK
Serial Number 77321886
Filing Date November 5, 2007
Current Filing Basis 1B
Original Filing Basis 1B
Owner (APPLICANT) Pilgrim Films and Television, Inc. CORPORATION CALIFORNIA 4730 Woodman Avenue, Suite 300 Sherman Oaks CALIFORNIA 91432
Attorney of Record Stephen J. Strauss
Prior Registrations 3137991;3156328;3161623;AND OTHERS
Type of Mark SERVICE MARK
Register PRINCIPAL
Live/Dead Indicator LIVE


Word Mark UFOHUNTERS
Goods and Services IC 042. US 100 101. G & S: investigation and research services in the field of spaceships, alien aircraft and unidentified flying objects
Mark Drawing Code (3) DESIGN PLUS WORDS, LETTERS, AND/OR NUMBERS
Design Search Code 18.09.02 - Capsules, space; Missiles and rockets (space); Rockets, space; Space capsules; Space rockets
26.01.03 - Circles, incomplete (more than semi-circles); Incomplete circles (more than semi-circles)
26.01.16 - Circles touching or intersecting
Serial Number 77268583
Filing Date August 30, 2007
Current Filing Basis 1B
Original Filing Basis 1B
Owner (APPLICANT) Mutual UFO Network, Inc. CORPORATION COLORADO PO Box 279 Bellvue COLORADO 80512
Attorney of Record Natalie Levy
Description of Mark Color is not claimed as a feature of the mark. The mark consists of the mark is present in a stylized format with "UFO HUNTERS" in plain capital letters and the image of a flying spaceship above the words. The spaceship appears to be seen through the shape of binoculars. Applicant does not claim any particular font style, size, or color.
Type of Mark SERVICE MARK
Register PRINCIPAL
Live/Dead Indicator LIVE

Word Mark UFO HUNTERS
Goods and Services IC 042. US 100 101. G & S: investigation and research services in the field of spaceships, alien aircraft, and unidentified flying objects
Standard Characters Claimed
Mark Drawing Code (4) STANDARD CHARACTER MARK
Serial Number 77268519
Filing Date August 30, 2007
Current Filing Basis 1B
Original Filing Basis 1B
Owner (APPLICANT) Mutual UFO Network, Inc. CORPORATION COLORADO PO Box 279 Bellvue COLORADO 80512
Attorney of Record Natalie Levy
Type of Mark SERVICE MARK
Register PRINCIPAL
Live/Dead Indicator LIVE

 
At 24 January 2008 00:30 , Blogger manuel said...

so it AEs it looks like since 8/01/2005 first coiined used and if a joint venture with mufon, it would have to protects its part under the same umbrella the same way if they hooked up TAPS ghost hunters with lets say the Edgar Cayce foundation and they put a product or other activity out together, I hope that helps

 
At 24 January 2008 02:50 , Blogger manuel said...

reading a bit more from here
http://www.cummingsdesign.com/trademarks_service_marks_registration_filing.htm

that AE used the phrase in 2005..ufo hunters is a pretty generic term but still important, even though AE actually filed in october 2007..so this gets little confusing as mufon had filed it twice one being pretty specic..which you have to be in terms of goods and services as well as mark..you dont get that R until way late All have applicant status..not ownership. IA means the are going commercial and have submitted specimens and established first use, which is the 2005 date even though they filed after Mufon..

that link will help a lot and avoid legal jargon..

 

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