Tuesday, 13 April 2010

New Witness: (California) UFO Drone Season Starts Early This Year!!

I received an email on Sunday (11th April 2010) and I've hesitated posting it for several reasons which I won't go into. Everybody knows how I personally feel about the 2007 California Drones and if you're unsure check out the website I dedicated to them (image link in sidebar to the right of this text). Anyway I emailed the witness back straight away and heard nothing, I also emailed the witness again on the 13th April (2010) again with no reply as of yet.

The email address is still ‘live' and the witness's full name was supplied (via Google-mail).

However, I will say that I suspect I'm the last person a genuine ‘Drone' witness would contact mainly due to my previous comments on the hoax aspect, I also feel that the report I received reads a lot like that of *Chad* (one of the original Drone witnesses) as it shares the same sense of urgency and similar words are in capitals to further STRESS this fact…..

So I share the following email exactly as I received it and without comment, make of it what you will (name & email address removed):






And as a refresher here's the original Chad report:

The Chad Account (First Contact)

Last month (April 2007), my wife and I were on a walk when we noticed a very large, very strange "craft" in the sky. My wife took a picture with her cell phone camera (first photo below). A few days later a friend (and neighbor) lent me his camera and came with me to take photos of this "craft". We found it and took a number of very clear photos. Picture #4 is taken from right below this thing and I must give my friend credit as I was not brave enough to get close enough to take this picture myself!


The craft is almost completely silent and moves very smoothly. It usually moves slowly until it decides to take off. Then it moves VERY quickly and is out of sight in the blink of an eye. MORE THAN ANYTHING I simply want to understand what this is and why it is here? We found your show with Google and I have listened for a few nights now. I have decided that if anyone can help me understand what this thing is, it is you and your audience. I must admit I am deeply unsettled by this thing. I have never seen anything like this in my life...

Location: I would prefer not to say for now.....

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Sunday, 23 August 2009

The Internet Matrix (RE: 2007 California Drone Hoax)

James Carrion (Mufon Director) laments on the 2007 California Drone hoax and highlights the problems that are inherent to UFO forums/message boards, an excerpt follows:



The Internet Matrix

In 2007, the California Drones photos came on the scene and also spread like wildfire throughout the Internet. However this time, the witnesses were allegedly members of the public, ALL of who chose to remain anonymous and could not be proven to be real people. Despite this glaring red flag, the Drones saga is still actively promoted today as a valid case, especially by the message boards of the Open Minds forum http://lucianarchy.proboards.com/index.cgi?

When I joined the boards, I was treated by the moderators and anonymous membership in the same way I was treated by the Dive Company message board members, in a negative way using disinformation methods of deflection and intimidation. When I pressed my case, I was then kicked off the boards. Now the interesting thing about Open Minds is that the two principles who allegedly own it and with whom I have had some interesting email exchanges don't seem to be real people themselves. I could be wrong here but I challenge anyone to investigate this for themself and if you can surface a real resume for either partner, then I will retract my statement. You can read MUFON's opinion on the Drones in the April 2008 issue of the MUFON Journal.

So what are the dangers of these message boards since even MUFON has its own board at http://mufonmembers.proboards.com/index.cgi?

The danger lies in the anonymous nature of these boards. Anyone can sign up without proving their identity and they can make any claims that they want. For example, on the MUFON message boards we had a poster who was very critical of MUFON and claimed to be a former MUFON member. When I asked the person to confidentially send me his/her name so I could verify that they were indeed a former member, they stopped posting on the board and it is doubtful they were ever a MUFON member in the first place. More likely they were an agent provocateur in the employ of the intelligence agencies.

The Intelligence agencies can use these message boards to promote false information, build myths like the 2006 Kinross case and the 2007 Drones saga, practice disinformation techniques and character assasinate any one who dares question their tactics. Imagine you are new to the UFO subject and your classroom for learning more about the phenomenon is one of these message boards. How can you believe anything that you read on these boards, even MUFON's own board, when intelligence operatives have free reign? It is one of the questions I have been asking myself for awhile and since MUFON is in the process of completely revamping its web site, is one of the issues that will have to be seriously looked at. MUFON may end up with a new message board site that restricts anonymity for these reasons.

Now I have to laugh when folks prematurely declare that MUFON is dying and that the Internet will replace it. Hogwash! MUFON is the voice of reason in this sea of disinformation, and MUFON field investigators have to prove themselves to be real people in order to investigate cases. MUFON has also taken a zero-tolerance stance on whistle blowers and anonymous inside sources to avoid being manipulated by the intelligence agencies as so many Ufologists have in the past.

So my friends, beware of La-La land (the Internet), don't believe everything you read there, don't trust anonymous sources and if you feel bullied on a UFO related message board, let me know as I would like to keep up on the latest intelligence agency disinformation and manipulation tactics.

Source: Follow The Magic Thread



I made a Blog post back in January 2008 that referenced the ‘episode' that James refers to at the Open Minds Forum and it can be viewed here.

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